Has Mondo and 24x36 type prints finally going the way of Beanie Babies???

Charlie · December 2016

I routinely check the value of a couple of Mondo posters I owned or still own including the Frankenstein Struzan (which I sold for ~$900) and a Moss Jungle Book that I bought because it was simply stunning. I am noticing a slight downward trend in value on the Jungle Book but the Struzan is a big Rainbow. It probably doesn't help that there are 19 pages of Frankenstein prints. Has the bubble finally busted as most of us predicted? I mean that 24x36 (cringe) movie came out and everyone has made their money... By way of the Digger the Crab the early Stouts and Mosses will probably hang on for the long ride and continue gaining some value as new collectors enter the "aftermarket" and 24x36 (cringe) world of fake movie posters. If I would have kept my Struzan and try to sell it now I would be down $200 five years later... Aren't collectibles suppose to increase in value over time? Espresso Beans the website that keeps track of print values have even started allowing members to add original theatrical release posters to their site. So will vintage posters and fake posters blend well? I certainly hope not! An original 1977 US One Sheet of Star Wars (Jung) is royalty compared to some digital pen jockey re-imagining of it. If you don't have any respect and sentiment for original posters you should be ashamed of yourself. You have no sense of history nor the nostalgia that makes collecting things great. I've also observed on another forum that the first page of their Mondo thread covers a period of time from April 2016 until November 2016. That thread use to be rocking every day it seems like - a significant drop off. I fear the bubble will burst sooner than later as people realize that there are 19 pages of ways to recreate Frankenstein and other movie characters (36 pages of Star Wars). But even worse, I think these screen print junkies will discover vintage posters and that they are not only holding their value but often increasing in value. This will drive the prices of our want lists sky high - you can already see the crazy money being thrown around on auction sites. Wish I would have picked up all those Star Wars posters between Episode I and II. Sigh...

Here are some espresso bean rainbows for your viewing pleasure:

http://expressobeans.com/public/detail.php/187767

http://expressobeans.com/public/detail.php/138554

http://expressobeans.com/public/detail.php/163264

http://expressobeans.com/public/detail.php/154438

Interestingly my Beetlejuice and Black Swan are doing pretty good:

http://expressobeans.com/public/detail.php/128076

http://expressobeans.com/public/detail.php/158031

theartofmovieposters · December 2016

They are two different beasts...vintage and screenprints.

As with everything, after the initial "rush" to get stuff, the novelty wears off and things even out.

The good stuff will always be good, and hold or increase it's value, whether it be original or screenprint.

Except for a small handful of prints, I've let most of mine go. Haven't lost money on anything.

The expressobeans average prices only accounts for the public sales...a lot, and I do mean a lot, is not through ebay etc...

I think that sometimes because we love original poster so much we can tend to be snobby about anything else.

Charlie · December 2016

You can add your own sale price on there as wells as prints that you have that aren't up. I did find a Frankie that sold on eBay for $610 which is a $100 less than EB average price... I think it's over. Like you said the good ones the early Stout's and Moss's will hold but most everything else coming old will just be pretty paper.

Tob · December 2016

Screen print collectors are vaguely aware of original posters, but most just aren't that interested in them. As Ves says, they're two completely different beasts and the number of folk that crossover and collect both seem pretty small.

There are lots of other galleries releasing prints now (in addition to Mondo) and that supply has led to a softening of the secondary market for some prints. Others are getting harder to find and the value keeps rising. You can cherry pick examples at both ends, but I think that broadly speaking, the market seems softer than it was a year ago. I think that's partly due to people being more discerning with what they collect (keeping the 'top tier' stuff, letting lots of the 'middle tier' stuff go).

It's still a young hobby, so who knows what will happen in another 10 years time, but the scene seems very active to me...compare the level of chatter and new acquisition sharing on Mondo Facebook groups with the 'real' poster forums/Facebook groups and it's significantly busier.

So in my opinion, no, they haven't gone the way of the beanie baby yet.

theartofmovieposters · December 2016

Hi Tob!

Nice to "see" and hear from you. Hope all is good...

Tob · December 2016

Hi Ves! I'm well thanks! Life keeping me busy, but I'm lurking and enjoying seeing all the pretty paper. Hope you and family are well, Merry Christmas to you all!

theartofmovieposters · December 2016

I think the thing to remember is that we are not just talking movie posters where screenprints are involved. You also have gig posters and other subject matter.

I think in this area of collecting it might be a bit more about the artist than the subject.

Sven · December 2016

I think they will continue to farm them out, but perhaps anything pre 2015 with great artwork, name e.g. stout, moss, ansin, laurent and cult will be the desirable pieces.. but the frankenstein does skew this theory

Im glad i bought taxi driver ansin at the initial price as it seems to have done reasonable well, nothing like stout or jaws laurent...but love the movie and wanted something different to the one sheet

David · December 2016

Someone want to add some images of some Mondo prints here? I don't follow/collect or even take note of them.

theartofmovieposters · December 2016

At work, so can't...but if you click on Charlie's links you can see a few examples.

Charlie · December 2016

Thanks for the input guys!

David · December 2016

theartofmovieposters said:

At work, so can't...but if you click on Charlie's links you can see a few examples.

What?! And leave this place?!!!!

theartofmovieposters · December 2016

Sven said:

I think they will continue to farm them out, but perhaps anything pre 2015 with great artwork, name e.g. stout, moss, ansin, laurent and cult will be the desirable pieces.. but the frankenstein does skew this theory

Im glad i bought taxi driver ansin at the initial price as it seems to have done reasonable well, nothing like stout or jaws laurent...but love the movie and wanted something different to the one sheet

Did the Scorsese exhibit that was in Melbourne with my hubby earlier this year, and was stopped dead in my tracks when I came across Ansin's print as part of the exhibit!

Sven · December 2016

theartofmovieposters said:

Sven said:

I think they will continue to farm them out, but perhaps anything pre 2015 with great artwork, name e.g. stout, moss, ansin, laurent and cult will be the desirable pieces.. but the frankenstein does skew this theory

Im glad i bought taxi driver ansin at the initial price as it seems to have done reasonable well, nothing like stout or jaws laurent...but love the movie and wanted something different to the one sheet

Did the Scorsese exhibit that was in Melbourne with my hubby earlier this year, and was stopped dead in my tracks when I came across Ansin's print as part of the exhibit!

Missed out on the exhibition..dam!!

Matt · December 2016

These aren't 24 x 36 prints but interested to see the results.

Good to see the GBU set going well. You have a set Charlie???

http://expressobeans.com/public/detail.php/80297

Fistful going ok.

http://expressobeans.com/public/detail.php/80294

Few Dollars More is still moving up

http://expressobeans.com/public/detail.php/80296

Mad Max

http://expressobeans.com/public/detail.php/86421

No so well but I couldn't find the Red version that were printed in a fewer number.

theartofmovieposters · December 2016

Click in the top right hand corner drop down to select variant editions Matt...

Matt · December 2016

Ah, thanks Ves.

Charlie · December 2016

Yeah I forgot about that set. And I have that Aussie Mad Max daybill/insert release. I wonder where they are???

Paul · December 2016

I think the thing with these prints are, if you just like art for the the sake, they are for you, but I'm a film fan first and foremost, so have had no interest what so ever in them. They have never been part of a films campaign, they are just expensive pictures. I think in time people will realise that. As far as I can see they are just the same as Commercial posters.

As Tob says, two different beasts. I'm no snob, but I just want actual Cinema stuff. I do have the odd commercial poster, but would never pay silly money for one, if it wasn't free...

Eisenhower · December 2016

Wow, cool thread-nice start Charlie.

I'd seen a few of these images before-esp the Laurent Jaws--And Alamo Drafthouse-but had not heard of Mondo before.

Agree-seems to be a completely different animal than original paper, although with much of what Ive seen-Charlie's & Matt's samples-awesome Eastwoods! The hand drawn art is fantastic, and if I had extra $ to spend and had acquired much of my collecting goals-I'd be in line to get a few!

End of day...if I'm buying, backing & framing-I'm with Paul, I want theater used art in my walls.

theartofmovieposters · December 2016

To throw a spanner in the works, I think the original Rolling Roadshow prints would be in a slightly different basket. They seem to still be quite popular and sought after...

Matt · December 2016

Can you explain the difference between the Rolling Roadshow prints and all the others. The Rolling Roadshows prints were for the outdoor screenings of the movie they were showing, yeah?

theartofmovieposters · December 2016

That's right Matt. The Rolling Roadshow prints are where all the movie themed ones started.

So for each screening, a poster was designed and released to coincide with that screening.

That is where the gorgeous GBU set came from.

Matt · December 2016

Thanks Ves x 2.

HereComesMongo · August 2017

Many of the best are insanely priced:

Image: http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Screen%20Shot%202017-08-31%20at%203.18.00%20PM_zpsccnwvmb3.jpg?t=1504120845

I'd pay up to $250 for it. You could buy four excellent US 1Ss for $2,500, but the expresso beans crowd has little interest in MPs.

*****

I do think the best Mondos are a viable SUPPLEMENT to a movie poster collection. I plan to buy and display 15-20 Mondos. Here's what I have so far:

Image: http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Screen%20Shot%202017-08-31%20at%203.29.48%20PM_zpsgpoettra.jpg

Charlie · August 2017

I think Mondo movie posters, repressed vinyl records, man bags and top knots will all go out of style - like the hipsters who are into them.

David · August 2017

hehehe

110x75 · September 2017

Charlie said:

I think Mondo movie posters, repressed vinyl records, man bags and top knots will all go out of style - like the hipsters who are into them.

Rick · September 2017

i see very few that i like

theartofmovieposters · September 2017

Oh, I just picked one up via a friend as I never have any luck!

There are a dozen or so I still have that I quite like.

HereComesMongo · September 2017

Back in 2014 many were predicting that screen prints would fail like Beanie Babies.

I dropped out of the hobby for three years. When I came back, they were just as popular as ever....

Anyway just picked this one up sub $100:

Has Mondo and 24x36 type prints finally going the way of Beanie Babies???

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