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Dating The Aristocats Daybill

Some background first: In 1928 Greater Union (GU) sold their first distribution company “Australasian Films” but by 1932 they were back in the game with Union Theatres Feature Exchange which was subsequently restructured in 1932 to become British Empire Films (BEF). Over the years Disney has used a range of companies to distribute their films in Australia, including Union Theatres Exchange in 1929; United Artists 1933 to 1937; RKO 1937 to 1954; Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer 1959 to 1972 and BEF-MGM from 1973 to 1975.

In 1975 MGM-BEF becomes Greater Union Film Distributors, (remember this...) 

The Aristocats

The movie released in USA December 1970, it was not released in Australia until December 1971, so any Daybill that is claiming the poster is 1970 is of course incorrect.

In terms of release and re-release dates, all I have actually been able to dig up with confirmed dates are:

1971
1980/81
1987/88
1994

IMDb states Australia had a 1980 release and a 1994 (yet don’t mention a 1987/88 one).

As an aside, in the two main online movie poster databases (no names) I find a lot of 1SH and WCs that are either dating an original poster as 1970 or 1971, but on all of them I looked at I can see the (NSS) date clearly says 1971, it'd be nice if there was some consistency.

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10 years later we have an advert for a Drive-In Theatre for the movie in May 1981

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I don’t know much about Drive-Ins so can’t comment as to whether this is a Nationwide re-release for the movie or not - BUT if it is then it would stands to reason that there would have been during the Summer holidays season (May is the middle of winter downunder) which of course would have been December 1980

Here is an article from 1987 talking about the movie being re-released (it's written from USA so is it a USA 1987 release, which means perhaps an Australian 1988?)

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And seven years later another article discussing the 1994 re-release of the movie

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So now to the posters

The following poster is often referred to as being from 1971 and that would be correct, it is also sometimes called an called R70s, which is technically correct, however...

As you can see there are two versions of this poster:

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LEFT POSTER: Note the rating; “For General Exhibition”, meaning it was printed before the November 1971 ruling and perhaps before the October 1971 announcement

RIGHT POSTER: Some might say the snipe might suggest it is a NZ Daybill, I am suggesting that the snipe was added after the posters were printed when the new G Rating was announced (October 1971) but before the distributor knew what the new rating looked like, and hence the ‘blank’ snipe.

I think the ‘sniped’ posters are still from the 1971 release however, the one that is more valuable (to me) is the one without the snipe.

The following poster is often referred to as being from 1971, that is incorrect.

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Note the Greater Union logo, bottom middle - Greater Union Film Distributors weren't known as such until 1975. As we seem to have some evidence supporting a 1980 release but nothing earlier than that I am calling it R80.

This one is sometimes referred to as an R86, I don't believe that is so

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As I found evidence that there was a season in Australia in mid early 1987 (see article above), I think it would be better to refer to it as R87, don't you?
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  • edited July 2021
    Great stuff @David, thank you for posting these helpful tips!
  • I am sure there are others, are you talking early stuff?
  • rick said:
    I think I have three different releases for Aristocats.
    Can you show them please because I can't see Dave's images. Getting a no hotlinking finger.
  • edited March 2014
    Matt said:
    Can you show them please because I can't see Dave's images. Getting a no hotlinking finger.
    Are all images no hotlink? (I can see them when I read the post) - it's an easy fix I am sure (I hotlinked them from the original forum post not the orignal server).
  • Just the last three. I read somewhere a while ago that if you hotlink some images, you can them but others can't.
  • Matt said:
    Just the last three. I read somewhere a while ago that if you hotlink some images, you can them but others can't.
    Funny how I can see it. Anyway I change from where I was hotlinking the images (from) maybe that will work - otherwise it is simple to download and then upload.
  • Now I can't see the last four 

    I found smilies though 8-}
  • See'em now!
  • The last one photographed by David would be from the mid 80s and I would agree with his guess of 1987. I was doing movie reviews at the time and kept a copy of this poster.
  • In '87 the style was still with white borders and lengths around 26 - 27 inches (see Lethal Weapon, Untouchables, Fatal Attraction, Secret of My Success etc).
    I think that poster is nudging into the v. early '90s when the lengths became even shorter and art was generally all full bleed. See Rescuers looking very similar and same tag r.e. prices>>

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  • That 'Adults at Children's Prices' would date a lot of daybills - be nice if someone connected could find out when that campaign started (and finished).


    :-\"
  • Glad you're a resourceful fellow with plenty of spare time!
  • Mark said:
    Glad you're a resourceful fellow with plenty of spare time!
    Spare time? I wish! Besides you're more connected...
  • Mafia??? Mark you son of gun.
  • Disney research mafia. Club you to death with a roll of daybills!
  • Any good titles in the roll?
  • All orig release Fantasia. Adds to the humiliation.
  • A roll of linen backed Pretty Women daybills would of been more painful. I'll take the humiliation.
  • Mark said:
    All orig release Fantasia. Adds to the humiliation.
    Ohhh and since those are long daybills adds to the clubbing oomph power!
  • Here are a couple more I found with the prices tag. Blinky Bill was 1992 release. Pan I'm not sure but style of poster is identical to Rescuers Down Under which was released here in 1991.

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  • Well "Adults at..." is still being used today as a marketing tool, (still on posters?) and was it solely pushed by GU and Village Roadshow?

    I wonder tho' perhaps it was a (movie theatre) industry marketing push(?) perhaps to counter video hire which started in the early 80s, and was growing fast. 


  • edited April 2014
    Here is the Little Mermaid (dated at bottom 1989) which imdb has as Aust release 1990 & sans tag. The posters I remember seeing with the tag are from that early '90s period. The two styles of Lion King in 1994 & Toy Story in 1995 are without it. 
    Note that they are all using the same font for the tag, as though printed at a similar time.
    I feel it was promoting the 1991 / '92 season coinciding with Rescuers Down Under & Blinky Bill which were both Aussie themed animation. 
    What do you think?

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  • I guess unless we ask Village etc we won't know for sure.
  • Got this off imdb:

    UK25 March 1994(re-release)
    Ireland25 March 1994(re-release)
    France30 March 1994(re-release)
    Australia31 March 1994(re-release)
    Hungary31 March 1994
    Germany15 May 1994(re-release)
    Poland27 May 1994
    Spain22 June 1994(re-release)
  • edited April 2014
    For Peter Pan or The Aristocats?

    Although I would tend to believe the later release (and re-release) dates on imdb I have found too many errors in the earlier decades for it to be the "bible" of release dates (outside of USA). Where do these dates come from?

    Question: Isn't it normal for the the release dates in Australia to coincide with the school holidays? March 31 1994 is a Thursday which is the day before Good Friday so sure, this is possible too.
  • edited April 2014
    This appeared in the Canberra Times March 31, 1994.
    Note "adults at children's prices" tag in session times. 


  • I can find it being used for Disney's Cinderella as early as 1991, no earlier at this stage...
  • I wouldn't usually trust imdb, but they got it right this time.
    That poster is R94.

  • Good enough, I tend to think it's the older stuff that imdb gets wrong.

    I wonder where they get their info from tho
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