Firstly the daybill poster is not from an original printing for the first Australian release.. When the poster was designed the artist who designed the image of the two stars had the right pose for the film but the wrong combination of actors. One was in the film and the other wasn't. The image depicted on the Homecoming daybill poster was copied incorrectly from the slightly earlier film Cass Timberlane which featured Lana Turner and Spencer Tracy. It is their images from Cass Timderlane you are seeing on the Homecoming daybill. As I said in the topic's heading ''Another Printing Boo Boo'' and a major one at that.
Out of curiousity does anyone have a copy of the original Homecoming daybill with the Not Suitable For General Exhibition rating on it they can share with us?
However, isn't it just a stock poster that was intended to be used for various films of the same or similar genre?
I originally thought this may be the case but later changed my mind. I have sighted five different MGM stock posters from I believe the 1940s & 1950s. By the 1960s MGM appeared to mainly design full colour or duotone re-issue posters with images from the actual films appearing on them..
All the MGM stock posters I have seen that have actors or scenes depicted on them have multiple images and not a single film image such as on Homecoming. The remaining stock posters are actor or film scene free such as the various ones with the Metro lion on the poster. In my opinion I doubt that MGM would design a stock poster with only two well known stars depicted on them ( although not recognising the difference between Tracy and Gable is a worry ) . I have sighted many daybills over the years but have never sighted a similar one if it was to be a stock poster.
There appears to possibly have been an early re-release in the 1950s and possibly this designed daybill was printed for that re-release and this would also explain the new style censorship rating which is different from the one sheet with the old rating on it.
Well, I do think it is more likely to be a stock poster with the film and cast details were added later.
Here is another stock MGM poster with a single image from the 60s ...
To me it is a generic drawing just meant to be a cowboy and not to be any well known actor and judging by the MGM logo mid to late 1960s and most importantly much later than the Homecoming daybill poster period in question.
So, are you saying that you don't agree that the Homecoming title and cast details were added later and that the original daybill was blank?
What I think happened was either MGM had a blank poster with only MGM Presents on the top and possibly printed earlier and then all the remaining details were drawn in specifically for the film's re-release which had an incorrect image drawn on it or that the poster was designed from scratch, perhaps in a hurry and done as cheaply as possible. Either way I believe we cannot call this poster a stock poster at this time as no other examples of a stock poster with just MGM presents at the top seem to available. I would classify it as an early 1950's re-release daybill poster showing an incorrect image on it.
Here is an example of a stock poster from the 50s. Although it is not MGM, it does show a great deal of artwork and room to add movie details. If you saw this poster with film details over printed it would be easy to assume it was an original.
What do others think about the Homecoming daybill? I feel that it is a stock daybill with the title and stars added later but would be interested to hear from others.
Here is an example of a stock poster from the 50s. Although it is not MGM, it does show a great deal of artwork and room to add movie details. If you saw this poster with film details over printed it would be easy to assume it was an original.
Immediately I thought Jack Buetel & Jane Russell / The Outlaw. It's not very clear but I can make out the distributor to be 20th Century Fox. A friend of mine has a colour lobby card and that card from memory has Jane Russell holding a knife standing over Jack Buetel, who is lying on a bed, What I do remember clearly is it having a copyright 1950 20th Century Fox printed on the bottom of the card. I have always wondered what connection 20th Century Fox in 1950 had with the RKO released film.
What do others think about the Homecoming daybill? I feel that it is a stock daybill with the title and stars added later but would be interested to hear from others.
It sure looks like a stock daybill to me (and I do not see Tracy in the artwork at all)
It sure looks like a stock daybill to me (and I do not see Tracy in the artwork at all)
Who else doesn't see the likeness of Tracy and Turner ? Have another look at the Cass Timberlane daybill image I posted. To me the Homecoming daybill has been inspired by the Cass Timberlanne image. If this is a stock poster, and I am not convinced it is, where is the original daybill image with the Not Suitable For General Exhibition rating on it for us to check ?
I can fully understand people thinking it is a stock poster and they may be right but not seeing the likeness of Tracy surprises me.
. To me the Homecoming daybill has been inspired by the Cass Timberlanne image. If this is a stock poster, and I am not convinced it is, where is the original daybill image with the Not Suitable For General Exhibition rating on it for us to check ?
I can fully understand people thinking it is a stock poster and they may be right but not seeing the likeness of Tracy surprises me.
This was the last comment I made before the Little Women stock poster has turned up from Ves and I now have to admit it is a stock poster as others said it was but I still believe it was copied from the slightly earlier Cass Timberlane. daybill.
Borrowed the use of the image from Ves. Strange choice of a poster to say the least for Little Women so I am still happy to think it still belongs in this thread as there were more suited stock posters available and more suitable for a General Exhibition film than this one.
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Hondo
The original Australian one sheet may provide a clue.
Hondo
Firstly the daybill poster is not from an original printing for the first Australian release.. When the poster was designed the artist who designed the image of the two stars had the right pose for the film but the wrong combination of actors. One was in the film and the other wasn't. The image depicted on the Homecoming daybill poster was copied incorrectly from the slightly earlier film Cass Timberlane which featured Lana Turner and Spencer Tracy. It is their images from Cass Timderlane you are seeing on the Homecoming daybill. As I said in the topic's heading ''Another Printing Boo Boo'' and a major one at that.
Out of curiousity does anyone have a copy of the original Homecoming daybill with the Not Suitable For General Exhibition rating on it they can share with us?
I originally thought this may be the case but later changed my mind. I have sighted five different MGM stock posters from I believe the 1940s & 1950s. By the 1960s MGM appeared to mainly design full colour or duotone re-issue posters with images from the actual films appearing on them..
All the MGM stock posters I have seen that have actors or scenes depicted on them have multiple images and not a single film image such as on Homecoming. The remaining stock posters are actor or film scene free such as the various ones with the Metro lion on the poster. In my opinion I doubt that MGM would design a stock poster with only two well known stars depicted on them ( although not recognising the difference between Tracy and Gable is a worry ) . I have sighted many daybills over the years but have never sighted a similar one if it was to be a stock poster.
There appears to possibly have been an early re-release in the 1950s and possibly this designed daybill was printed for that re-release and this would also explain the new style censorship rating which is different from the one sheet with the old rating on it.
Hondo
Well, I do think it is more likely to be a stock poster with the film and cast details were added later.
Here is another stock MGM poster with a single image from the 60s ...
So, are you saying that you don't agree that the Homecoming title and cast details were added later and that the original daybill was blank?
What I think happened was either MGM had a blank poster with only MGM Presents on the top and possibly printed earlier and then all the remaining details were drawn in specifically for the film's re-release which had an incorrect image drawn on it or that the poster was designed from scratch, perhaps in a hurry and done as cheaply as possible. Either way I believe we cannot call this poster a stock poster at this time as no other examples of a stock poster with just MGM presents at the top seem to available. I would classify it as an early 1950's re-release daybill poster showing an incorrect image on it.
Hondo
Here is an example of a stock poster from the 50s. Although it is not MGM, it does show a great deal of artwork and room to add movie details. If you saw this poster with film details over printed it would be easy to assume it was an original.
What do others think about the Homecoming daybill? I feel that it is a stock daybill with the title and stars added later but would be interested to hear from others.
https://youtu.be/N0-aQPbzCZE
Who else doesn't see the likeness of Tracy and Turner ? Have another look at the Cass Timberlane daybill image I posted. To me the Homecoming daybill has been inspired by the Cass Timberlanne image. If this is a stock poster, and I am not convinced it is, where is the original daybill image with the Not Suitable For General Exhibition rating on it for us to check ?
I can fully understand people thinking it is a stock poster and they may be right but not seeing the likeness of Tracy surprises me.
Hondo
This was the last comment I made before the Little Women stock poster has turned up from Ves and I now have to admit it is a stock poster as others said it was but I still believe it was copied from the slightly earlier Cass Timberlane. daybill.
Borrowed the use of the image from Ves. Strange choice of a poster to say the least for Little Women so I am still happy to think it still belongs in this thread as there were more suited stock posters available and more suitable for a General Exhibition film than this one.