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2001: A Space Odyssey Daybills

I posted about these years ago on NSFGE.  Thought I would bring it back to life to see if anyone has additional info:

So which one is the original, first release?

1)

Movie PostersScience Fiction 2001 A Space Odyssey MGM 1968

2) "Red Rocket"

 


The main differences I see are: A) the 'red rocket', B ) the blue coloured printer info vs. red coloured printer info on #1, C) the extended blue border on #1 vs #2 and D) differences in the stars/background art


The consensus on this third one seems to be that it is a later 70s release...what about the first two?

Movie PostersScience Fiction 2001 A Space Odyssey MGM R-1970 Australian Daybill 13 X 30 Science Fiction  Total 1 Item



Comments

  • I think there might even be a fourth design out there that I cannot locate at the moment...
  • These questions where the printer is the same and the designs are the same but with minor alterations are in the mission impossible category in my opinion.
  • Well that's no fun isn't it?
  • Personally, lacking other criteria, I always go with the one with the greater amount of color as the first release. That implies they were saving money by dropping a color.


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  • Bruce said:
    Personally, lacking other criteria, I always go with the one with the greater amount of color as the first release. That implies they were saving money by dropping a color.


    Makes a lot of sense but we still need proof.
  • It does make sense but other discussions here seem to refute that method
  • Of course, it is not definitive, and if any other better evidence exists, go with that. And yes, it is not foolproof. There are U.S. posters where the first release is one color and the re-release is full-color.

    But still, when I see two posters for the same movie, with the same image and the same (or no) printer details, I am going to say that the more colorful one is PROBABLY the first release, and the less colorful is PROBABLY a re-release. It makes almost no sense to argue they were released simultaneously.

    A similar GENERAL rule (with exceptions) is that most first release non-U.S. posters for U.S. movies usually have the original studio on them, while most re-release first release non-U.S. posters for U.S. movies usually DON'T have the original studio on them. So when I see a non-U.S. poster for a U.S. movies without the original studio on it, I immediately suspect it is a re-release, unless I get additional information otherwise.
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    HAS up to SIXTEEN weeks of "Pay and Hold" to save a fortune on shipping - IS eMoviePoster.com
    HAS real customer service before, during and after EVERY auction, and answers all questions - IS eMoviePoster.com

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