I'd like to think because it's because this event is being held locally plus several other obvious reasons is making it attractive to sellers. I've also been lucky with some great support from some great collectors and dealers putting up some amazing pieces.
This will be a perfect for Aussies to buy because it is in Aussie dollars and also a great time for overseas people to buy because their currency is so much stronger.
This event has the very real potential to become 'the' event for Aussie paper.
Looks like there will be some great pieces in the auction, hopefully the consingers have realistic reserve prices or else a lot of items won't sell.. See what happens, I hope it is a successful auction for you're sake at least Daveo! Good effort again regardless =D>
I guess 'realistic reserve' is in the eye of the beholder, certainly I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that what a seller thinks is a realistic reserve and what a buyer thinks will always be two different things. I know when you (Reg) and I have chatted about a sale the price you have set has been higher than the price I was willing to pay, that is reality and not a reflection on your pricing or my expectation. I am sure you will be disappointed with some of the reserves, but let me ask you to put up your most valuable piece and set a 'realistic reserve' based on what I think it should be - I bet you wouldn't.
True, some items will not sell, but I won't be measuring success in terms of sales or income earned even tho' others, specially the more cynical will judge it that way. The moment this event starts on Jan 26 7am AEDT then it's a success, and it's not about the money because I can assure you this is a loss making exercise, even if everything sells.
For me the fact so many dealers and collectors will have come together Down Under to be part of this event AND the fact we are seeing so many rare and wonderful Australian pieces coming up for grabs in one auction (something that has never been done before by any of the major auction houses) makes it a success, and so I'm happy.
"I guess 'realistic reserve' is in the eye of the beholder, certainly I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that what a seller thinks is a realistic reserve and what a buyer thinks will always be two different things".
I'd have to disagree. There is always a realistic price based on current market value, past auction, dealer and private sales etc.
"I know when you (Reg) and I have chatted about a sale the price you have set has been higher than the price I was willing to pay, that is reality and not a reflection on your pricing or my expectation".
I don't recall ever giving you a price on an item. If my memory serves me correct I asked if you would be interested in a title, if so make me an offer. You made an offer and it was substantially lower than what the same item had sold previously at auction, so i declined you're offer that is all.. I wasn't expecting you to match the same price achieved by a major auction house either.
"I am sure you will be disappointed with some of the reserves, but let me ask you to put up your most valuable piece and set a 'realistic reserve' based on what I think it should be - I bet you wouldn't".
Sure I would, if the prices you set are anything on par with you're own retail website.
"The moment this event starts on Jan 26 7am AEDT then it's a success, and it's not about the money because I can assure you this is a loss making exercise, even if everything sells".
Could you elaborate on why its a loss making exercise, even if everything sells.
"For me the fact so many dealers and collectors will have come together Down Under to be part of this event AND the fact we are seeing so many rare and wonderful Australian pieces coming up for grabs in one auction (something that has never been done before by any of the major auction houses) makes it a success, and so I'm happy".
Reserves are based on what the seller wants to sell it for, that may not necessarily be the market price, historical pricing can only be a guide, we have both seen prices go down and up so how can history be the guide to price.
OK, you turned me down on a price I offered (sorry, I couldn't remember the detail), I made what I felt was a realistic offer, nothing more than that - it didn't bother me then or now, it was simply an example.
I'll ignore the little ping at my website and simply say you only want to base reserves on the cheapest price out there when you are buying and the dearest historical price when you are selling.
Exactly prices sellers are asking are unrealistic at times, That is why they don't sell. That was my point.
Little Ping at you're website? No ping. I actually like the prices you set, so if I were selling I'd have no issues you pricing my items so long as they are are on par with you're own website.
Well you said if everything sells it would still be a loss. I don't understand that statement, If everything did sell it would be a very successful auction one would imagine..
Reserves = Circular argument. Explain why a reserve one week will not get a bid and yet the same reserve a month later on the same piece will see frantic bidding.
Loss = Simple Maths.
If the auction does $100K I make 6% (not 75%, not 50% or even 25% etc like other auction houses) THEN deduct government GST & taxes (because it is a legit Australian biz), now deduct Advertising & PR costs, server costs, additional plugins and software adjustment costs (for this auction) and so on. And I am not even talking about what it has cost prior to the Aussie Auction.
You need to sit down and have a beer or two with me to understand how passionate I am about this being successful BECAUSE it is about Australian paper and NOT about whether I make money or not. Now don't get me wrong, that would be nice, but it ain't going to happen and it's not what drives me - I knew this would be the case before I began discussing the Australia Day auction with a few others.
When the Kellys Rode is a 1934 Australian film directed by Harry Southwell about one of our most (in)famous and most celebrated outlaws, Ned Kelly. Even before the movie was released there were problems with the police, the local constabulary feared it would fuel the fires of rebellion amongst those who supported Ned and his gang and so the release was banned in the Australian state of New South Wales. Apparently protecting the populace from themselves was common practice and film-makers were often forced into into compromises in order to gain public release.
For instance, with the 1920 silent movie The Kelly Gang (1920) the film-makers used intertitles to praise the police superintendent for his "bravery and intelligence". Ned's demise was expressed as "such is the inevitable fate of all who rebel against the righteous and mighty forces of law and order".
When the Kellys Rode finally had its FIRST season in Sydney in 1948 some 14 years after it was released generally in other parts of Australia it attracted quite a large crowd, which was quite a surprise to the industry. But the reason was less flattering, it was not about the censorship but the quality. Film Weekly described it as "bad enough to serve as hilarious first half entertainment". The local paper, The Argus described it as "unedifying and unconvincing". Fourteen years is a long time between critics I guess...
And so from that 1948 release is this daybill, a wonderful piece of Australia history and a great movie poster. Alongside is the original review of the movie (Sydney Morning Herald May 1934)
You must be having fun receiving all those consignments . Great to see some boggy material , even though later release its a gem. And added bonus of less men with lipstick than the first release Casablanca . Keep bringing it on Dave! :P
I actually have that Casablanca (version) on my wall - it's great piece, and will be way more affordable compared to what one from six years earlier might be asking
But yes indeed, so much fun - truly a pleasure to see so much new old stuff.
The Air Mail Pilot (1928) - An Original Long Daybill
"Young air mail pilot arouses wrath of father of girl he loves,
result being that he is forbidden to see her. However, he finds that
his rival plans to rob the air mail. Villain makes haul, tries to
shift blame on others but airman and girl pursue him and bring him
down to earth where he gets his just deserts."
By the early 1920s the epic adventures of the young pilots who flew
the mail had already captured the public imagination. In 1921 the
New York Times paid tribute to the Postmaster-General and his
pilots: "Aviation owes a great deal to Otto Praegar...but American
aviation owes far more to these brave youngsters...who have
attempted what has often seemed impossible flying according to
schedule in all weather..."
Probably the first film was The Great Air Robbery of 1919 but by the
early 1920s most studios were exploiting the subject, critics often
referring to them as up-to-date westerns. But given the dangers, the
excitement and its obvious appeal as a modern version of the
legendary Pony Express the film industry quickly saw commercial gain
to be had on the subject where daring and dashing pilots carried
their mail to the new frontier of the sky. Often the air mail
service was merely a background for daring robberies and spectacular
stunt flying by the pilot hero.
Like many The Air Mail Pilot (1928) included an airplane
pursuit climaxing in the hero jumping from one in-flight airplane to
another and a fight with the villain on the wings of the latter's
airplane.
Sources From the Wright Brothers to Top Gun: Aviation, Nationalism,
and Popular Cinema By Michael Paris From the Motion Picture News Booking Guide (1929.)
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Little Ping at you're website? No ping. I actually like the prices you set, so if I were selling I'd have no issues you pricing my items so long as they are are on par with you're own website.
Well you said if everything sells it would still be a loss. I don't understand that statement, If everything did sell it would be a very successful auction one would imagine..
Reminded me of this one
For instance, with the 1920 silent movie The Kelly Gang (1920) the film-makers used intertitles to praise the police superintendent for his "bravery and intelligence". Ned's demise was expressed as "such is the inevitable fate of all who rebel against the righteous and mighty forces of law and order".
When the Kellys Rode finally had its FIRST season in Sydney in 1948 some 14 years after it was released generally in other parts of Australia it attracted quite a large crowd, which was quite a surprise to the industry. But the reason was less flattering, it was not about the censorship but the quality. Film Weekly described it as "bad enough to serve as hilarious first half entertainment". The local paper, The Argus described it as "unedifying and unconvincing". Fourteen years is a long time between critics I guess...
And so from that 1948 release is this daybill, a wonderful piece of Australia history and a great movie poster. Alongside is the original review of the movie (Sydney Morning Herald May 1934)
"Young air mail pilot arouses wrath of father of girl he loves, result being that he is forbidden to see her. However, he finds that his rival plans to rob the air mail. Villain makes haul, tries to shift blame on others but airman and girl pursue him and bring him down to earth where he gets his just deserts."
By the early 1920s the epic adventures of the young pilots who flew the mail had already captured the public imagination. In 1921 the New York Times paid tribute to the Postmaster-General and his pilots: "Aviation owes a great deal to Otto Praegar...but American aviation owes far more to these brave youngsters...who have attempted what has often seemed impossible flying according to schedule in all weather..."
Probably the first film was The Great Air Robbery of 1919 but by the early 1920s most studios were exploiting the subject, critics often referring to them as up-to-date westerns. But given the dangers, the excitement and its obvious appeal as a modern version of the legendary Pony Express the film industry quickly saw commercial gain to be had on the subject where daring and dashing pilots carried their mail to the new frontier of the sky. Often the air mail service was merely a background for daring robberies and spectacular stunt flying by the pilot hero.
Like many The Air Mail Pilot (1928) included an airplane pursuit climaxing in the hero jumping from one in-flight airplane to another and a fight with the villain on the wings of the latter's airplane.
From the Wright Brothers to Top Gun: Aviation, Nationalism, and Popular Cinema By Michael Paris
From the Motion Picture News Booking Guide (1929.)