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Re: 24 sheet Poster in 6 pieces
Due to current discussions on 24 sheets billboard posters here on the forum I thought that this image of The Dawn Patrol (1938) poster being displayed that was featured earlier here on this thread was worth a revisit.
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HONDO
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Re: FORBIDDEN PLANET (1956), Oversized Photo of 24-Sheet
Todd-AO was a proprietary wide-screen format by the American Optical company. Founded by Mike Todd. Competed in the 50s with Vista vision and Cinemascope.
One reason that we collectors have low interest in 24 sheets is that they are pretty much undisplayable. They are also quite rare for a couple of reasons. First, they were fairly expensive for theater owners to purchase and display. Second by their nature, once used they could not be recycled as they were pasted to billboards.
Smaller sizes were actually rented to theaters by the NSS and were expected to be returned at the end of the run. Thus many entered the collector market in the mid 1970s when the NSS closed their regional warehouses and auctioned off their stock in pallette sized lots.
One reason that we collectors have low interest in 24 sheets is that they are pretty much undisplayable. They are also quite rare for a couple of reasons. First, they were fairly expensive for theater owners to purchase and display. Second by their nature, once used they could not be recycled as they were pasted to billboards.
Smaller sizes were actually rented to theaters by the NSS and were expected to be returned at the end of the run. Thus many entered the collector market in the mid 1970s when the NSS closed their regional warehouses and auctioned off their stock in pallette sized lots.
jayn_j
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Re: Buyer Beware!
The reason sellers routinely mis-represent posters as to release is partly ignorance, and partly greed. If they make the sale, next-to-none will take returns for mistakes. They say, "you should have done your homework".
Bruce
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Re: FORBIDDEN PLANET (1956), Oversized Photo of 24-Sheet
Here is your proof.
Movies from major studios (like FP from MGM) always had 24 sheets. I agree with you that movies from low budget studios likely rarely had them.
If you had a still showing a 24 sheet from Bride of the Monster or Plan 9 from Outer Space that WOULD be a discovery.
Bruce
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Re: FORBIDDEN PLANET (1956), Oversized Photo of 24-Sheet
You have a lack of knowledge here. 24-sheets were a standard size and were made for virtually EVERY movie from the mid-1910s to the 1970s. No "proof" is needed of their existence, but it it were, it would be the pressbook that provides said proof.
What you say would make more sense for some unusual poster, like a still showing a special advertising 40x60, which might not have been shown or mentioned in the pressbook.
I have auctioned tons of stills that show poster images, and since they are black and white, they rarely command much collecting interest.
What has done much better are stills showing actual theater fronts with posters displayed.
What you say would make more sense for some unusual poster, like a still showing a special advertising 40x60, which might not have been shown or mentioned in the pressbook.
I have auctioned tons of stills that show poster images, and since they are black and white, they rarely command much collecting interest.
What has done much better are stills showing actual theater fronts with posters displayed.
Bruce
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Re: Let's Wake the Sleeping Giant: Ideas for Making Vintage Movie Posters Famous
I really do understand what you mean. :-)
Re: The Most Important Tool in Poster Collecting (That No One Talks About)
Flat files are the way to go. Brand new ones are expensive, used ones are often available.
Architect's offices used to be filled with them to store blueprints (mostly wooden ones). As they stop using them (no more physical blueprints), that makes tons available, but not all fit one-sheets.
I once lucked out and got one that easily holds 40x60s!
Architect's offices used to be filled with them to store blueprints (mostly wooden ones). As they stop using them (no more physical blueprints), that makes tons available, but not all fit one-sheets.
I once lucked out and got one that easily holds 40x60s!
Bruce
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Re: Rare Australian Posters Of Australian Films
People stood and cheered for EPiC: Elvis Presley in Concert at the IMAX screening, along with applause for a couple of songs.
Rick
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Re: How I Use AI for My Poster Collection
I’ve done a lot of AI work related to posters recently. I am convince there will be a general use for collectors.
With AI agents or basically on demand app development by probably early 2027.
Problem is that AI can only access available data. For Example Bruce (smartly) put his auction histories behind password wall.
Problem is that AI can only access available data. For Example Bruce (smartly) put his auction histories behind password wall.
So your results may be skewed to available auction results and conditions available (from various dealer condition assessment)
Garbage in, Garbage out. AI does not use books (or shouldn’t) due to copyright.
What I want to do is create my own database and scan all my books and such into a server and reference the 30-40 movie poster books and old auction catalogs. Have AI visually process all the books. Then ask it questions or use as a reference.
Garbage in, Garbage out. AI does not use books (or shouldn’t) due to copyright.
What I want to do is create my own database and scan all my books and such into a server and reference the 30-40 movie poster books and old auction catalogs. Have AI visually process all the books. Then ask it questions or use as a reference.
What is wild is that we will probably see a peak in physical media hoarding - so that we don’t have to rely on garbage.
You can also use Python to grab available large databases online but if it’s garbage, it’s garbage.
Scan in all the old movie industry books, magazines and such. Wow!
Scan in all the old movie industry books, magazines and such. Wow!
If Bruce wanted to sell/lease his database, prices, and corresponding high quality images he probably could monetize it.
For example how will AI grade a pulp fiction one sheet without having an example of a perfect copy.
What I am waiting for and (Grok tells me 2027) is for App Tie-Ins.
For example, I snap a picture of my poster and the app catalogs it, assigns a grade, and current value that I can request updates on. All developed by a prompt and developer/AI subscriptions.
For example how will AI grade a pulp fiction one sheet without having an example of a perfect copy.
What I am waiting for and (Grok tells me 2027) is for App Tie-Ins.
For example, I snap a picture of my poster and the app catalogs it, assigns a grade, and current value that I can request updates on. All developed by a prompt and developer/AI subscriptions.
I just want to do one thing - take a photo and let the app do the rest.
It’s going to be exciting for thinkers over the next 10 years!
It’s going to be exciting for thinkers over the next 10 years!
Charlie
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Re: Let's Wake the Sleeping Giant: Ideas for Making Vintage Movie Posters Famous
The simple answer is I don't have the time, and, after 36 years I continue to downsize my business, not expand it.finepostervault said:Hi everyone,Following up on the big status-check thread, one of the most common and valid concerns I keep hearing is:“We already have literally millions of genuine vintage movie posters sitting in closets, tubes, attics and frames all over the world. How on earth are we supposed to get every single one of them ‘verified’ or Micro-ID tagged? Sending them off for months (or years) like comic books to CGC is simply not realistic – the shipping, insurance and risk are way too high for rolled or framed posters.”That’s exactly the problem I’ve been thinking about. And I believe we have a very practical, collector-friendly solution that puts Bruce at eMoviePoster.com right at the center – exactly where his decades of experience and trust belong.The “Millions in the Closet” Problem – and How a DIY-Kit Solves ItInstead of forcing every poster to travel to a central grading facility, we go the opposite route: bring the technology to the collector.We create a simple, safe VMP DIY Micro-ID Kit that anyone can use at home in literally 5-10 minutes – no shipping of the poster required.What’s in the DIY-Kit?- A small, pre-measured vial of special adhesive containing thousands of tiny, invisible Microdots (each with its own unique serial number)- A precision applicator (like a tiny brush or Q-tip style tool)- An UV marker pen to quickly locate the dots afterwards- A QR-code card that leads straight to the secure VMP MicroRegistry- Step-by-step photo/video instructions (English + German + Spanish)How it works in practice:1. You choose a discreet spot on the back of your poster (ideally in a corner or area that will be covered during future linen-backing).2. You apply one tiny drop – the dots are completely invisible to the naked eye.3. You take a few macro photos (phone is fine) of the area + front and back of the poster.4. You upload everything to the VMP MicroRegistry (simple web form).5. Within 24-48 hours the code is activated and you receive a digital certificate + unique VMP-ID.Bruce as the absolute center of this projectBruce Hershenson has been fighting fakes longer and more successfully than anyone else in our hobby. That’s why I think he should be the driving force and trusted gatekeeper:- He tests and approves the exact Microdot formula and adhesive (so we know it is 100 % paper-safe)- He sells or distributes the official kits through eMoviePoster.com (or offers them to forum members at cost)- He personally reviews the first uploads or trains a small team of trusted moderators- When you register your poster, the system shows “Verified with assistance from Bruce / eMoviePoster.com” – instant credibility- Later he can offer “Bruce-approved Micro-ID” as an optional upgrade when you send a poster for restoration or purchase from himThis way the whole system stays in the hands of the person we already trust the most – not some anonymous tech company.No more waiting years – you decide when your poster gets its digital fingerprintEvery owner can start whenever they want: this weekend on the kitchen table, next year when they have time, or whenever they next send something to Bruce for linen-backing anyway. No waiting lists, no forced shipping, no risk to your collection.Over time the majority of serious posters will get their permanent, tamper-proof ID while the millions of existing genuine pieces stay safe in their closets until their owners are ready.Of course we will also have strong safeguards (controlled kit distribution only through trusted channels, mandatory photo uploads with provenance, review process by Bruce and moderators).What do you think?Would you use such a DIY kit if Bruce stands behind it?Bruce – what are your thoughts on this idea?I’m happy to help research suppliers or draft the registry if the community likes the direction.Looking forward to an open discussion.Best regards,Finepostervault
I DO often regret that I did not have this idea (or something similar) 36 years ago.
If I had, then around 3 million items would now have a "certification"!
Bruce
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